WIP: Male Androgyny: Sack of Potatoes, anyone?

[aquilegia]

Err.

It could be worse. It's not unrealistic, as such. I used my (still WIP) improved male fat morph as a guide so it wasn't nearly so... so. You know what I mean. But this is just not doing it for me as a fat morph for a very slender, lightly built man; it's not believably 'eats a lot and is a couch potato' for someone of that shape, it's 'been bedridden for months' and/or 'is on medication that causes weight gain'.

So, I have a workaround in mind, although it's very, very kludgy and involves deliberately mis-commenting the fat morph on tops to override the bottom morph. See, if you miscomment a morph--like, commenting a top 'botmorphs fatbot'--then that morph will change when the body state changes, but the comment will override the morph on the bottom.

Theoretically, anyhow. That's how it worked for HP's shirt mesh and the pregmorph. I'm hoping it will apply consistently so I can use that to force the regular morph bottoms when male androgyny tops get fat, so they can have appropriate couch potato pudge. Otherwise, the option is to make completely new bottoms, and I'm looking forward to that about as much as I would to a root canal. :|

ETA: I'm having One of Those Days where I can't stop nitpicking my work to death, thus rendering my opinions suspect, so here are some comparison pictures.





For additional reference, here's the Maxis fat mesh vs my improved version:




Thoughts?

Comments

[aquilegia]

Upper arms and moobs, check. I think I'll keep the moobs though, 'cause I think they're cute and they go with the whole androgyny thing.

The rest--everything at where the body curves in to the hips and below is Maxis, and thus their fault. *g* Thing is, I'm trying to avoid changing that so that the Maxis bodyshape bottoms will work with this one a la the female shape, thus making for vastly less work for me.

If I change the legs--which I don't disagree with you on, the sudden lack of any muscle tone makes the sim look like they've gained weight due to being bedridden--I'm changing all of it to be in line with how I think this body's fat morph should be. Which is more mildly pudgy and not gut-tastic, as the Maxis shape can be the gut-bearer. Then I will wail because I have twice as much work as before. :)

Although, heh. I will note that in Finland, fat guys do often have the big gut, still-narrow hips, chicken legs thing going on. So Maxis wasn't totally out of line with reality... sheerly by accident, I'm sure. :D

[hat_plays_sims]

Hey, upper arms would help! They'd help a lot. I do have to ask-- would changing the thighs on the nude mesh be that big a deal on this guy? I don't think any Maxis shorts meshes reveal the thighs (but I won't swear to it because I'm that rare bird that doesn't use separates), and anything like swimsuits are one-piece and would have to be meshed afresh(ish) anyway If you leave the calves skinny but maybe softened the bulge in the thigh over more of the leg, would EAxis pants still hang right?

Chicken legs on the fat guys wouldn't bug me as much if the skinny guys had 'em, too. How come the fat chicks get lush and curvy but the fat men get all noodle-y instead of properly portly? It's not fair. *sulks in the general direction of EAxis* Fat kings should still look imposing and prosperous, not sickly!

[aquilegia]

I do have to ask-- would changing the thighs on the nude mesh be that big a deal on this guy?

I just had that thought (Hours and two cups of coffee later, of course XD). I need to give a look at the bottom meshes I have to see how much I can bulk up the thighs (EAxis meshes mostly have lots of room, but I avoid the EAxis pants as much as possible), but it seems like it should be workable. I can also do that for the poor default mesh when I fix it...

How come the fat chicks get lush and curvy but the fat men get all noodle-y instead of properly portly? It's not fair.

My hypothesis is that whoever designed the male fat morph had to have had something against fat guys to have made them so dumpy and noodley.

[hat_plays_sims]

I wish you luck with the shorts, then! And with the default mesh, eventually.

You would think that a video game designer would be slightly more sympathetic toward fat guys, you really would.

[aquilegia]

*snrrrrk* Yeah, that's what I was thinking. XD